Re: [ossig] IDC: Windows cheaper than Linux

[Uwe Dippel <udippel@uniten.edu.my>]

Ladies and Gentlemen,

this cannot go! This forces a reply. Here it comes.

With all respect to a fellow citizen, this GUI-thinggie is wrong from
the start. I doubt that it was in the original article !? If yes, then
the writers are not very competent.
One of the troubles M$ had and conceded to have with NT was, that
certain functions could be accessed only through the GUI. So they tried
to implement the others and offered those through the Resource Kits,
because even they (M$) accept, that a useful sysadministration is only
possible through scripts. Think of the NetLogon that they have for their
domains, and quite a few more. Just recently Slashdot had a contribution
of M$ re-inventing the command line, including inventing tab-completion,
history, grep, yada yada yada... . Why? Surely not for Jack Homeowner.
Eh, by the way: even for the first release of W2K implementation of
*all* system functions on the command line was a *must* for the
developers. You seem to be mistaken here ... !

Of course, the community can and will have to improve on the (remote)
administration, and a Windoze domain is set up easier than a Unix
domain. But let us not mislead anyone: where we have to improve is the
underlying concepts and scripts! To write a GUI for a script is much
easier than writing the centralised, remote administration.

Thanks,

Uwe

On Tue, 2003-01-14 at 18:24, Colin Charles wrote:
> A fairly independent study, based on server use:
> 
> 	http://news.com.com/2100-1001-975938.html?tag=fd_top
> 
> Something that caught my eye:
> 
> "We believe these higher costs are...related to the relative 
> immaturity of the management tools available today for Linux 
> systems," IDC said. Administrators, too, will become more adept. 
> "Over time, the gap in support costs between Linux and Windows will 
> contract." 
> 
> Maybe the Linux zealots (well, FreeBSD, and other Unixes as well) 
> shouldn't stick with the CLI based admin/management tools, and get 
> some really good GUI thing running for the Windows-converted admins.
> 
> I've seen Webmin in action, and intend on actively playing with it 
> soon. What other GUI admin and management tools do you all use out 
> there?
> 
> --
> Colin Charles, byte@aeon.com.my
> http://www.bytebot.net/
> 
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