Re: [ossig] vendors encouraged to go open source

[Uwe Dippel <udippel@uniten.edu.my>]

Funny boys, you.
During last year I was bashed and called names - not by you !! - (to
stem from an uncivilised region of this globe) when a brand name showed
up in one of my tendering requests. "No civilised country in this world
permits you to use brands in your tender documents !!" 

True, maybe 'my' country is uncivilised.

I am still waiting, though, for the lab equipment of my students,
because the deadlock cannot be solved: my specs cannot be met (nobody
knows how); while I am not permitted to slightly mention a possible
source in the documents that *can* meet the specs and deliver.

How's the law now, after all ?

Uwe

On Thu, 2003-03-20 at 15:34, Seah Hong Yee wrote:
> How these things typically work is.
> 
> 1) Some vendor, your friendly borg went in with a cube ship
> 2) made a presentation on the best nano probe, er I mean buggy software 
> available and tell them "resistance is futile"
> 3) After being assimilated, the govt department, write out a narrowly 
> define specs that says, "MS Exchange"
> 4) Some clueless tender officer dutifully type out the spec for "MS 
> exchange"
> 5) A request for tender is sent out which says "MS exchange" as the 
> specification
> 6) Tender box is open, everything that says "MS exchange" is taken in, 
> everything else, including one that says Linux, Kolab, etc is discarded
> 7) Exhorbitant EULA is signed, a site license that says the site will 
> enjoy good pricing if they keep out other software blah blah blah
> 8) Another site assimilated, the Borg move on to the next target.
> 9) Hence forth, the site has problem buying other software because the 
> EULA offer seems to good to be passed on.
> 10) From time to time, vendor came in flashing their MSCE credentials 
> and repeating "Resistance is Futile"
> 
> Unless some of us willing to take leave and goes from place to place 
> making presentation and says "resistance is not futile", this is not 
> likely to change.
> 
> 
> On Thursday, March 20, 2003, at 12:33 PM, Alawi Abdullah wrote:
> 
> > i still remember the tender specification for tabung
> > darah negara web implementation last few month, they
> > specifically stated they want ms-exchange and some
> > other ms product.
> >
> > also the upm web based student info system last month,
> > they want oracle.
> >
> > i think they should open the spec, and dont
> > specifically stated certain product.
> >
> >
> > --- Dr Molly Cheah <drcheah@pc.jaring.my> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Dinesh Nair wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Wed, 19 Mar 2003, Dr Molly Cheah wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Program encourages vendors to go open source.
> >>
> >>> http://www.infoworld.com/article/03/03/17/HNostep_1.html
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> let's go one step better: all projects funded by
> >> taxpayer funds (re: govt
> >>> IT type projects) should be open sourced.
> >> especially so if it's custom
> >>> developed software. anyone in government with the
> >> cojones to implement
> >>> this ? :)
> >>>
> >>>
> >> Are you kidding? The trend appears to be to charge
> >> for everything. :)
> >>
> >> Molly
> >>
> >>
> >>
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