Re: [ossig] University curriculum for OSS?

[Uwe Dippel <udippel@uniten.edu.my>]

On Mon, 2003-07-28 at 18:23, Loke KS wrote: 

> But the converse can be useful, ie someone who can write a compiler, can
> still use drag&drop??
Yes, of course. Not everyone should follow Stallman who does everything
in EMACS. 

> I don't disagree. So how setup a catalyst for this? University is not a good
> place to start??
Yes, it is. What is the perception of the universities versus their own
tasks and duties, their own rôle ? 

> > Let's bring science and academics back into the universities, so that
> > the future generation of this country can contribute real stuff.
> 
> And what this mean? Dropping drag&drop from the curriculum??? If only were
> so simple??? 
It is not about dropping drag&drop. It is about being able to tear off
that window and look at the content. It is the best of Western tradition
to value the process, not the result. Hegelian Dialectics versus
Confucian perfection (compare the first two of those contributions in
The Star to 'Sunrise Utar') 

> The call of the industry is for more technology-oriented
> graduates who can jump straight to the job, rather someone who can use Z to
> write formal and correct program specs.
We seem to go in circles here. Of course they prefer employables who are
*not* willing or able to break the dependencies. 

> > And here is where OSS comes in. And has a place.
> 
> and what does that mean??

The Open Source is open. The whole Windows box is closed. Nothing to
study, except great marketing and domination; no technical contents.
With respect to this, yes, Windows seems to fit very well into the
consumption-oriented culture of this country. When you are in Rome,
behave like a Roman.




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