Re: [ossig] University curriculum for OSS?

["Loke KS" <lks@webpres.com.my>]

My aim was to discuss, whether there is place of OSS within the university,
but this thread has meandered on Windows-bashing, and criticising students,
university, warnings about colonialism, etc. Nobody seriously disagreed with
what has been said but generalization is always dangerous and i think, the
thread has wandered off a fair bit ... well, back to regular the programme,
folks.

> On Mon, 2003-07-28 at 18:23, Loke KS wrote:
>
> > But the converse can be useful, ie someone who can write a compiler, can
> > still use drag&drop??
> Yes, of course. Not everyone should follow Stallman who does everything
> in EMACS.
>
> > I don't disagree. So how setup a catalyst for this? University is not a
good
> > place to start??
> Yes, it is. What is the perception of the universities versus their own
> tasks and duties, their own rôle ?
>
> > > Let's bring science and academics back into the universities, so that
> > > the future generation of this country can contribute real stuff.
> >
> > And what this mean? Dropping drag&drop from the curriculum??? If only
were
> > so simple???
> It is not about dropping drag&drop. It is about being able to tear off
> that window and look at the content. It is the best of Western tradition
> to value the process, not the result. Hegelian Dialectics versus
> Confucian perfection (compare the first two of those contributions in
> The Star to 'Sunrise Utar')
>
> > The call of the industry is for more technology-oriented
> > graduates who can jump straight to the job, rather someone who can use Z
to
> > write formal and correct program specs.
> We seem to go in circles here. Of course they prefer employables who are
> *not* willing or able to break the dependencies.
>
> > > And here is where OSS comes in. And has a place.
> >
> > and what does that mean??
>
> The Open Source is open. The whole Windows box is closed. Nothing to
> study, except great marketing and domination; no technical contents.
> With respect to this, yes, Windows seems to fit very well into the
> consumption-oriented culture of this country. When you are in Rome,
> behave like a Roman.
>
>
>
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