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Re: [ossig] Technical workshops in MIMOS?



Sounds good.

Seems, we *are* ready for it.

From own experience, it proves advantageous to schedule things like this
regularly. Otherwise, the effort to reach an agreement on date and time
will be inefficient. No idea if MIMOS could host this stuff regularly ?
A less ambitious once per month would already be something ! If I knew
that on the first Tuesday of each month (e.g.) there was a session in
TPM, at least to me it would be easier to fit into my schedule than
repeatedly ad hoc.

And - with all respect to the somewhat more advanced - we have to fill
the gap between the OSS101 awareness and advanced usage. There is still
a steep curve from a successful OSS101 to daily adoption; i.e. format C:
The php-freak doesn't need our help, he / she can get just as good but
faster on-line. 

Rather:

Desktop-Apps, (double-)boot, burning CDs, connect (!!) with PPP / PPPoE,
printing, etc. seems one string to me; 

with the whole development stuff (IDE, JAVA, etc.) as second focus; 

and web-development (php, apache, xDBC, etc.) as third aspect

finally system administration (deployment (!!), config, tuning,
filesystem, backup / replication, mail, news) as number four

security (IDS, PF, netfilter, authentication) as five

eventually esoteric stuff (kernel development, file systems, etc) as
sixth thread

This seems more practical, because - aside from us freaks - everyone
else simply has to make a living; and we'd like OpenSource to become the
tool with which this living could be made. So we better split into
topics fit for potential applicators:

Desktop and users (General Public with OSS101)
(Application) Developers
Web-Developers
System Admins / ISPs
Security
Freaks


Why should someone be interested in - e.g. - OpenBSD per se ?? No good
reason. But OpenBSD as a solution for a security problem; yes. First
example.
Some web developer wouldn't perceive the slightest reason to go to a
session about Apache. But to a session about a complete solution for
"Web-Development"; yes.

I'm sure you get the point. Nobody (almost nobody) runs FreeBSD or
Apache for the fun of running these. Let's get the public where 'they'
are approachable, sensitive: Offer something to improve / simplify the
daily work. L'art pour l'art; humanistic education; all is mega-out.
Usability, applicability, budget, simplicity, that's all that counts (no
affront against nsh intended).

Uwe

On Fri, 2003-08-29 at 12:05, Dinesh Nair wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 29 Aug 2003, Imran William Smith wrote:
> 
> > External presenters would be welcome, and we'd probably host in our
> > auditorium which has a capacity of around 150.  Possibly 1/2 day events.
> > Either free or low cost - just to cover use of the room + refreshments.
> > Low key, no paid advertising, no souvenirs, just community-driven
> > training / info.
> 
> why don't we get this organized as a series of workshops/lectures on
> technical subjects, aimed at the administrator and developer community
> locally ?
> 
> my suggestion is to create focus/expert groups on specific open source
> technologies and then have those groups take turns presenting on it. for
> starters (and this is only a suggestion, additions/modifications are
> welcome), we could create the following focus/expert groups:
> 
> 1. Linux (Kernel structures, Performance Tuning, Filesystem et al)
> 2. FreeBSD (Ports, CVS, Performance Tuning, Filesystem et al)
> 3. MySQL (Configuration, Replication, Redundancy, Performance Tuning)
> 4. PHP & Web App Development (incorporating Apache)
> 5. Java development (JBoss, Tomcat, JDK issues, IDEs)
> 6. Desktop Apps (KDE, Gnome, OO.o macros, conversions)
> 
> have each of the focus groups draw up syllabi for 2-3 workshops each, put
> them together and you have an entire 6-month programme, with one workshop
> per week. MIMOS could also approach other open source vendors (Novel, HP,
> IBM) for sponsorship of workshops (tea+coffee, logistics et al). MIMOS
> could also host (either on opensource.mimos.my or www.asiaosc.org) the
> content of the workshops, thus having a resource of Malaysian generated
> content contributed back to the open source community.
> 
> as technical chair of the mncc ossig, i can coordinate and try to form the
> groups as well as leading the FreeBSD and/or MySQL groups. this will
> complement the OSS101 series of awareness talks that nan phin is
> coordinating with getronics and atsc. as a tongue in cheek reference to
> TechEd, we can call our series OpenEd (pronounced Open Education or
> Opened). :)
> 
> since imran's off on hols, we'll start discussion with MIMOS when he gets
> back.
> 
> all i favour ?
> 
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