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Re: [ossig] [OSSIG] Proposal for the formation of an OSSIndustry Association



the good news is that we do not need to spend a single sen on lobbying
the govt. the govt is already doing that - read today's computimes. what
we need now, is one platform to support that lobby and deliver the
solution and services. and make money of course... maybe not a bmw or a
merc, but certainly the nasi lemak...

now that the govt has said something, how do we as a community respond ?
naturally, there will be jostling for projects and tenders and business
- but how does all of these sustain the oss community as a whole ?

now that the govt has got 1 unit up to represent the whole public
sector, should we not have 1 unit up to represent the whole oss community ?





Raja Iskandar Shah
http://riscniaga.netfirms.com

----- Original Message -----
From: Dinesh Nair <dinesh@alphaque.com>
Date: Saturday, June 5, 2004 2:12 am
Subject: Re: [ossig] [OSSIG] Proposal for the formation of an OSS
Industry Association

> 
> On Sat, 5 Jun 2004, Colin Charles wrote:
> 
> > What is the cashflow used for, is my other question? Members 
> must see
> > value in joining this organisation, and forking out sums to it. 
> Keep in
> > mind that most organisations in Australia are also small/medium-
> sized
> running an organization. it ain't cheap.
> 
> > 1) Organising seminars to get the ball rolling - minimal costs 
> can be
> > charged to defray running costs
> > 2) Press releases as a body - time from the secretary/press 
> coordinator> 3) Running mailing list/website - can't some kind 
> soul(s) donate this?
> > 4) Printing posters, doing CD drives, etc... (marketing?) - I 
> don't know
> > how much of this to push, but this is where funds probably do 
> come out
> > from...
> 
> colin, if you've read tze-meng's mail and raja iskandar's 
> additions, it
> goes beyond this. get away from the mindset that all we need to do is
> lobby, evangelize and promote. it's time to deliver.
> 
> > folks pay RM100 (this can include one-man-shops, i.e. non Sdn. 
> Bhd.'s
> you'd need 100 small shops to hit RM10,000, a small annual figure 
> for an
> organization's budget. tell me, are there 100 shops like this in 
> malaysia? please, dont bring in oz statistics here for the 
> culture, business
> environment and technological landscape are world's apart.
> 
> > The problem is when an organisation lists themselves as being 
> experts in
> > everything... and not being able to DELIVER *grin*
> 
> and the group we're forming gets slammed for recommending 
> something which
> did not meet expectations. that's too big a risk to bear, which is 
> why you
> dont see many industry groupings vouching for their members.
> 
> > either, but if the member places the ACS logo and doesn't act 
> ethically,> you can write to the ACS and they get stripped of 
> their status (after an
> > investigation of course)
> 
> right, and what's the ACS's annual budget ?
> 
> Regards,                           /\_/\   "All dogs go to heaven."
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