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Re: [ossig] What's Wrong With VB ?




On Jun 4, 2004, at 16:52, Raja Iskandar Shah wrote:

> hmmm.... you must have done basic a long long time ago.

Applesoft basic - hmm, must be 1980
Sharp MZ700 basic 1979

> i did a short
> basic class in 1983 (in singapore), on an ibm machine then. i remember
> doing a simple application for a flight booking system. i remember the
> goto and everything was in 1 large file. then in 1987 (in england), i
> took another short basic programming class, this time i did a first
> person flight sim game - where you pilot a plane and shoot every other
> thing off the sky.

Cool stuff .... I can't remember anything of note I did in basic, yeah 
nothing big
all my "big" projects were in Pascal - initially Apple aka UCSD Pascal, 
the Turbo Pascal on CP/M - all on an Apple II clone :)
Then professionally Turbo Pascal on Windows 3.1 and later...whoo 
1987-nineties ...then stopped :(

> vb is different from that. there is modularity, public and private
> functions, and now object oriented. not too bad lah.. and since it has 
> a
> visual interface,

yeah, like turbo pascal - extended well beyond the standard for better 
or worse
funny thing is turbo pascal's extensions have been "ported" to FPC and 
GNU pascal
..... a lot of Turbo Pascal programmers still out there I guess :)
U can say I'm a dyed in the wool TP programmer who is too old to learn 
something new, Modula-2/3 or Ada maybe
but C and C++ makes my hair stand

> it is now probably replacing pascal in our tertiary
> education.

yeah, sad, need to push ANSI pascal as the teaching language of choice

> just like ubs accounting is used in tertiary education to
> teach the fundamentals (not!) of computerised accounting software.

hahah

>
> by the way, is there a pascal plug-in for eclipse ? with all these
> plug-ins, we should be promoting our universities in using eclipse as a
> tool for learning programming languages.

sorry no idea

> and the co-op can sell the
> eclipse cd and books to the universities and students.. he.. he..

yes, thats the spirit !

Cheers

Tze Meng


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