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Re: [ossig] Kiddies' Linux ?
> any other distro for pre-school kids ?
my 10 year old cousin snap of my knoppix and had fun
with it. he gets back his windows for other games....
sigh..
--- Raja Iskandar Shah <ris.riscniaga@time.net.my>
wrote:
> the original enterprise linux thread was really
> long. too hard to resist....
>
> ok lah.. this is my small experience with a home pc
> - essentially for my
> 4 year old daughter.
>
> xandros personal edition (1 cd which i got from apc
> magazine)
> - not enough stuff for a 4 year old: took some time
> for vcd to
> auto-mount (i think something to do with my lg
> cd-burner), no kiddie games.
> - ok for a standalone: the standard installation is
> pretty good and easy
> to use, recognised all the stuff on my pc,
> installation of additional
> stuff can be a little of a mystery (no messages to
> say if the
> installation is ok or ko), 'official' updates is via
> annual subscription.
> - good for a small home network: nothing extra to
> configure from the
> standard installation, recognised all the stuff on
> the network, some
> utilities to help out along the way (e.g. setting up
> networking, dial-up
> internet access, sharing files).
> - documentation and help is obscure: probably there
> but need some
> searching around for the right topic.
> - overall: good for no-brainer soho network use.
>
>
> suse professional (5 cd + 2 dvd + manuals which i
> bought for rm120)
> - simple enough for a 4 year old: vcd auto-mount and
> opens kaffeine, 5
> cute games for kids, my daughter gives it a 5 star
> rating (anything that
> can get my daughter's attention for 1 hour deserves
> 5 star).
> - good for a standalone home pc: installation and
> detection of devices
> is good (except for my onboard modem), audio and
> video is very good
> (even with 'cover' vcd), a lot of stuff on the 5
> cds.
> - ok for a small home network: needed to configure
> for samba, ok
> start-up times, did not recognise my modem
> automatically, 'official'
> updates is free.
> - documentation is good but help is ok only: what
> you see on screen and
> what you see in help is often different, almost
> everything is 3 or 4
> clicks away (rather than 1 or 2 clicks away).
> - overall: good enough for a family home pc out of
> the box, the
> 'professional' is for configuring everything else
> including as a soho
> server.
>
>
> conclusion: xandros is more intuitive. suse is more
> 'pro'.
>
>
> any other distro for pre-school kids ?
>
>
>
>
> Raja Iskandar Shah
> http://riscniaga.netfirms.com
> > On Thu, Aug 19, 2004 at 05:02:54AM -0700, Mukhsein
> Johari wrote:
>
> > I didn't mean for this to get into a FC/Debian
> > yum/apt-get religious debate - but of course, I
> > shoulda known, huh? :-P
>
> Yup. But then, you're probably one of those
> brain-damaged vi users,
> right?
>
>
> > What I'm getting at is, is the "way of
> debian" somehow extra
> > conducive to distro specialization in some way?
> Is it really *that*
> > flexible? What gives it this quality that other
> 'base' distros do
> > not have?
>
> My guess is that the *perception* of Debian as the
> "hacker's distro"
> means that those hackers who are motivated and
> skilled enough to put
> together clever projects like Knoppix are also
> those who are drawn
> very strongly to the "Debian Way" - but
> there's a hidden third
> category you're not mentioning.
>
> First, why Debian and not RH? I count four Major
> Distros: Slackware,
> Red Hat, Debian and SuSE. Historically, their
> niches have been:
>
> Slackware - hardcore DIY minimalist old-skool Linux
> Red Hat - for corporate and new users
> SuSE - for corporate and newbie Germans (Roter
> Hut!?)
> Debian - more mainstream than Slackware, less
> mainstream than Red Hat
>
> The Debian userbase is traditionally scornful of
> the RH GUI way of
> doing things but at the same time very supportive of
> the custom Debian
> tools - it is a very large and very close
> user community. The
> archetypical Debian user is one who's gotten pissed
> off by some aspect
> of the Red Hat GUI/EZ-CONF philosophy, and who wants
> to move to a more
> hands-on distro. A small number will convert to
> Slackware, but
> Slackware users by-and-large tend to skip the
> Red Hat phase
> altogether.
>
> The type of Linux user who's likely to put
> together something
> radically new (c.f Knoppix) is more likely to
> be the type who's
> attracted to Debian rather than the type who's
> attracted to RH. RH is
> mainstream, Debian is "subculture". Also,
> until recently, RH
> development was much more closed than Debian's.
> The Fedora project
> might go a long way towards changing the attitudes
> of the user groups
> - but OTOH perhaps RHEL will further polarize
> things.
>
> But the "hidden third group" of projects is probably
> the largest. You
> have: (1) those based on RH, (2) those based on
> Debian and (3) those
> not based on ANY distro. Those who are not
> religious or who don't
> like Debian for some reason will go with a
> hand-rolled Linux (c.f.
> Tom's Boot/Root Disk). The reason you see more
> Debian-based projects
> is is that the group of hackers who create new
> projects but DON'T
> hand-roll their projects will probably fall into
> the Debian camp
> rather than the Red Hat.
>
>
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