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Re: [ossig] Pro Tem first meeting minutes



Any reason why we  were not shortlisted as we were amongst the 1st 19 
who bothered to participate in the initial brain-storming session? :)
I believe there were others who had been left out?

Molly
Khairil Yusof wrote:

>In pretty html format:
>http://www.iosn.net/country/malaysia/organizations/mosig/meeting-minutes/minutes-2004-11-28
>
>
>Pro tem Committee Meeting - Nov 28 2004
>
>First meeting of MOSIG Pro tem Commitee to discuss steps that need to be
>taken for the formation of MOSIG.
>
>Committee Meeting
>
>28th Nov 2004
>
>Attendance
>
>      * Dinesh Nair
>      * Tan Tze Meng
>      * Yusseri Yusoff
>      * Khairil Yusof
>
>Minutes
>
>Main Issues
>      * Structure
>      * Funding
>
>Additional Issues
>      * Bring in Jason Tan onto pro tem committee
>      * Formation
>        Company/structure
>        Possible options
>        
>              * MNCC - company, services model
>                
>                Risk (challenge) of structure (Dinesh)
>                
>                      * Members have few rights
>                      * Shares 
>                              * limit 50 shareholders without need for
>                                Security Sommission.
>                              * Likely less than 50 (yusseri)
>                              * Breakdown 
>                                      * 1 vote member regardless of
>                                        shares
>                                      * issues of companies taking over
>                                        raised which need to be
>                                        addressed in charter 
>              * As Berhad (Tze Meng)
>                
>                Probably creates more problems than it solves with
>                regards to shares.
>                
>        MOSIG setup as an NPO company which is able to generate revenue
>        
>              * PIKOM model of generating revenue was suggested (Dinesh)
>                
>        Shareholders Agreement
>        
>        Use PCDOM's Shareholder's Agreement
>        
>              * Rights of voting 
>                      * Dinesh objects to gap in rights between founding
>                        members and new members
>        
>        Need laywer
>        Lawyer will cost about ~RM8K to tender documents.
>        
>        
>        Operations
>        Needs full time staff (Dinesh/Tze Meng) in order to be
>        professional. This will result in costs. Initially this is
>        expected to be around RM50K annually.
>
>        Concerns of corruption
>        Structuring MOSIG around a company model like PIKOM may raise
>        issues of corruption (from experience of PIKOM). - Dinesh
>        
>Add Jason Tan to pro tem committee
>
>A unanimous decision was made by the committee to bring Jason Tan on
>board.
>
>
>Next Steps
>
>Identify Companies
>
>Funding is an issue because need funds to startup, but difficult to fund
>raise without a legal entity. Committee suggest that we raise funds by
>identifying group of interested open source companies.
>
>MoU between 15 companies to start off was suggested by Khairil. Dinesh
>however pointed out that this would take too long, and that a verbal
>agreement would be good enough as a start.
>
>
>Identify 15-20 companies
>
>      * Approach individually
>      * Solve short term issues
>      * 
>Companies shortlisted
>
>      * Alphaque
>      * OpenSOS
>      * Bytecraft
>      * Magnifix
>      * OSS
>      * Webcraft
>      * HiTB
>      * Asix
>      * MyDirectory
>      * Skali
>      * Axiomatic
>      * Nadi IT
>      * Lestari
>      * MySec
>      * 
>Need Goals of MOSIG
>
>      * Lobbying, Press, Sales/Marketing 
>              * Conferences
>              * Outreach 
>                      * Mentoring
>                      * Training Companies
>      * Benefits of Industry Grouping 
>              * Backing, Support
>              * Assistance 
>                      * lists of legal, experts and services
>      * Revenue 
>              * Certification of OSS Vendors and Service providers
>              * LPI Affliate to organize examinations
>              * Fairs such as HiTB and FOSSCON
>              * Merchandising (T-Shirts etc)
>      * Legal entity 
>              * Can raise funds and partner with donor agencies and
>                companies.
>Priorities
>
>     1. Goals, Business Plans, Models
>     2. Approach Businesses
>
>TODO
>Presentation on Goals
>
>Target - RM10K needs to be raised in order to start of MOSIG
>
>
>
>
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