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Re: [ossig] The MAMPU event and my comments



i some how wonder why there was no formal invitation
(at least via e-mail) sent to OSS MIMOS when such
efforts were to others?? even to the extent of calling
them personally to ensure their attendance!

-smz


--- Yusseri Yusoff <yusseri@ieee.org> wrote:

> 
> Dear All,
> 
> Okay, I mentioned somewhere earlier that a
> post-mortem was being held on the 
> dialogue session that we had in Shah Alam yesterday.
> That's just my own 
> post-mortem. I had to think. What follows is my
> *personal* opinions and do 
> not represent MAMPU's. So here goes:
> 
> I've read through the posts in this list on the
> event and would like to give 
> my take on the whole thing. Rather than respond
> individually, I've elected to 
> collect it all and do it once.
> 
> 1. There was no discrimination in the invitations to
> attend. The call for 
> participation in the event was made on the 12th of
> August to three mailing 
> lists ONLY: myoss, ossig and MyPenguin99. NO CALLS
> FOR PARTICIPATION were 
> sent to Microsoft, BSA, AMCHAM, COMPTIA, ARSA, or
> ISAC-M. NO CALLS were made 
> in paper form. We didn't phone, fax, mail, email,
> smoke signal anyone.
> 
> That was my idea. The assumption was that interested
> parties from the industry 
> and OSS community would be in these lists. The
> assumption was that the people 
> who would care the most would be in these lists (and
> in a sense, I was right 
> there).
> 
> The invitations were then sent out to *those who
> registered*, i.e. those who 
> were interested. We at the OSCC, in our spirit of
> openness, sent the invites 
> to ALL who registered, even if they were people from
> MS, ISAC-M, whatever.
> 
> (Hindsight is a wonderful thing ...)
> 
> It is worth noting here that obviously either
> Microsoft employees (ZaidH, 
> Rahman) or someone sympathetic to them read these
> lists, as I'm sure they're 
> reading this now. This is not a problem.
> 
> 2. I spoke to nsh after the event to voice out my
> dissatisfaction on the low 
> attendance of the OSS community at the event (and
> actually forgetting that he 
> himself wasn't there). He pointed out several things
> which I find very valid:
> 
> i) I could have done more to drum up support and
> excitement about the event 
> amongst the community -- on account of the fact that
> we tend to bitch and 
> moan in the safety of our own mailing lists and are
> rather apathetic 
> elsewhere. In other words, I should not have been so
> naive as to think that 
> one single email would be enough. Reminders, sneak
> previews, big-ass website 
> to announce the event, etc. would have worked
> better.
> 
> ii) Many people are skeptical that the govt. would
> listen and be responsive, 
> and therefore would prefer to not waste their time
> attending. It's a fair 
> point and I should have made it clear from the start
> that MAMPU was the sort 
> to actually want to listen and part of my job was
> (is) to help them in this.
> 
> 3. The ISAC-M people may or may not have been MS
> shills. During the breaks and 
> prior to lunch with them and baldy, I explained to
> them that they shouldn't 
> be concerned with the govt's OSS Initiative. Rather,
> they should be concerned 
> with the larger malaise that is our ICT industry. I
> said that OSS, regardless 
> of whether ISAC-M cares or not, will march on. This
> is because they can't 
> stop every single Free and Open Source Software
> developer in the World! So 
> stop bitching about the govt's OSS project, and
> start thinking about the 
> health of their industry and how to fix it. In other
> words, there are BIGGER 
> things to worry about.
> 
> 
> Actually, I think I'll email this out first and
> continue in another one.
> 
> yusseri
> 
>
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