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Re: [ossig] The MAMPU event and my comments



I was just about to ask the same question :-)

On 9/25/05, Sabariah Mohd Zin <sabariahmz2001@yahoo.com> wrote:
> i some how wonder why there was no formal invitation
> (at least via e-mail) sent to OSS MIMOS when such
> efforts were to others?? even to the extent of calling
> them personally to ensure their attendance!
>
> -smz
>
>
> --- Yusseri Yusoff <yusseri@ieee.org> wrote:
>
> >
> > Dear All,
> >
> > Okay, I mentioned somewhere earlier that a
> > post-mortem was being held on the
> > dialogue session that we had in Shah Alam yesterday.
> > That's just my own
> > post-mortem. I had to think. What follows is my
> > *personal* opinions and do
> > not represent MAMPU's. So here goes:
> >
> > I've read through the posts in this list on the
> > event and would like to give
> > my take on the whole thing. Rather than respond
> > individually, I've elected to
> > collect it all and do it once.
> >
> > 1. There was no discrimination in the invitations to
> > attend. The call for
> > participation in the event was made on the 12th of
> > August to three mailing
> > lists ONLY: myoss, ossig and MyPenguin99. NO CALLS
> > FOR PARTICIPATION were
> > sent to Microsoft, BSA, AMCHAM, COMPTIA, ARSA, or
> > ISAC-M. NO CALLS were made
> > in paper form. We didn't phone, fax, mail, email,
> > smoke signal anyone.
> >
> > That was my idea. The assumption was that interested
> > parties from the industry
> > and OSS community would be in these lists. The
> > assumption was that the people
> > who would care the most would be in these lists (and
> > in a sense, I was right
> > there).
> >
> > The invitations were then sent out to *those who
> > registered*, i.e. those who
> > were interested. We at the OSCC, in our spirit of
> > openness, sent the invites
> > to ALL who registered, even if they were people from
> > MS, ISAC-M, whatever.
> >
> > (Hindsight is a wonderful thing ...)
> >
> > It is worth noting here that obviously either
> > Microsoft employees (ZaidH,
> > Rahman) or someone sympathetic to them read these
> > lists, as I'm sure they're
> > reading this now. This is not a problem.
> >
> > 2. I spoke to nsh after the event to voice out my
> > dissatisfaction on the low
> > attendance of the OSS community at the event (and
> > actually forgetting that he
> > himself wasn't there). He pointed out several things
> > which I find very valid:
> >
> > i) I could have done more to drum up support and
> > excitement about the event
> > amongst the community -- on account of the fact that
> > we tend to bitch and
> > moan in the safety of our own mailing lists and are
> > rather apathetic
> > elsewhere. In other words, I should not have been so
> > naive as to think that
> > one single email would be enough. Reminders, sneak
> > previews, big-ass website
> > to announce the event, etc. would have worked
> > better.
> >
> > ii) Many people are skeptical that the govt. would
> > listen and be responsive,
> > and therefore would prefer to not waste their time
> > attending. It's a fair
> > point and I should have made it clear from the start
> > that MAMPU was the sort
> > to actually want to listen and part of my job was
> > (is) to help them in this.
> >
> > 3. The ISAC-M people may or may not have been MS
> > shills. During the breaks and
> > prior to lunch with them and baldy, I explained to
> > them that they shouldn't
> > be concerned with the govt's OSS Initiative. Rather,
> > they should be concerned
> > with the larger malaise that is our ICT industry. I
> > said that OSS, regardless
> > of whether ISAC-M cares or not, will march on. This
> > is because they can't
> > stop every single Free and Open Source Software
> > developer in the World! So
> > stop bitching about the govt's OSS project, and
> > start thinking about the
> > health of their industry and how to fix it. In other
> > words, there are BIGGER
> > things to worry about.
> >
> >
> > Actually, I think I'll email this out first and
> > continue in another one.
> >
> > yusseri
> >
> >
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