Re: [ossig] JSP v PHP for Biz Intelligence Application

["Raja Iskandar Shah" <ris.riscniaga@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

actually with eclipse, netbeans, jboss, etc it is not that difficult for
developing 'database driven' websites. jboss bpm on eclipse is a pretty
cool tool for workflows. but i have over the years developed some
mistrust of 'wizards'.

personally, i like drupal which is on php. building modules for it is so
easy. wished php had better market perception.


Raja Iskandar Shah
http://www.norazilaco.biz

----- Original Message -----
From: Vincent Lee <leehongfay@yahoo.com>
Date: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 0:22 am
Subject: Re: [ossig] JSP v PHP for Biz Intelligence Application

> agree, php is easy to learn, faster to write, but harder to 
> maintain, great
> tool for fast website development...
> 
> when it comes to more rigorous architecture and platform for financial
> applications, recommend j2ee...
> 
> --- Nur Hussein <nhussein@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Ok, with real programming languages you have a feel of the 
> design decisions
> > that went into it. There's a grammar you can look at, a spec you can
> > implement, and the language creator sat down and thought about 
> what the
> > language allows and what it doesn't, and features are added with 
> the target
> > domain of the language in mind. Take C for example, a lot of it 
> might be
> > considered "bad" (pointers, no array bounds checking etc. - it's 
> basically a
> > portable assembly) but it does what it's supposed to do, and 
> does it well
> > within the domain it's used in (systems programming).
> > 
> > PHP doesn't seem to have this. It started out as a set of perl 
> scripts to
> > display somebody's resume. As it grew, it added features, 
> rewrote the rules,
> > and basically you think the developers are making it up as they 
> go along. It
> > still doesn't have namespaces. Register_globals is still there 
> (no it
> > doesn't make sense to me at all, web deployment is where 
> security is
> > critical is it not?). Type checking is almost nonexistent.
> > 
> > You probably can write secure, maintainable code in PHP, just as 
> you can
> > write object-oriented code in C. However, it feels like the 
> language isn't
> > going to help you in any way in the endeavour.
> > 
> > -= Nur Hussein =-
> > 
> > On 7/11/06, Ditesh Kumar <ditesh@gathani.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > PHP does not seem to have any design at all, and looks like an
> > > > incidental byproduct of a series of tacked-on hacks. That's 
> not a good
> > > > thing for a programming language to be.
> > >
> > > Well, are you going to substantiate this or is this going to 
> head down
> > > the traditional BSD flamewar arguments?
> > >
> > > Ditesh
> > >
> > >
> > >
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